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, foreign aid, nancy pelosi's aircraft, all compensation for congress. that's nothing. that's about 4% of where we are. you get spending cuts by going into the entitlements programs. these things are on health care -- doesn't matter what you call it. it's an automatic pilot. all you have to do is look at the demographics and the fact that all these things are happening. health, obesity drugs. you're taking care of them all. >> medicare and medicaid, how realistic are we going to get some cuts here? these are the biggies. >> better get realistic. we can't do it. >> we spend twice as much as any other developed country in the world on health care. twice as much. that might be all right if, you know, our outcomes were twice as good as anybody else's. but they're not. we rank somewhere between 25th and 50th in such important measures as infant mortality, life expectancy, preventable death. anybody who doesn't think those 32 million people who don't have health care insurance don't get health care, they get health care today. they just get it at the emergency room at five to eight times th
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